Hutson Mason is not the Quaterback We Want to See


A few weeks ago I discussed the backup quarterbacks in Athens and mentioned that occasional DudeYouCrazy Contributor Andy Crawford disagrees with me regarding Hutson Mason.  Here is Andy’s response.  Frankly: it’s good.  As a challenge to the readers, if you ever send me any article that is this good I will post it and give you the credit.  Seriously.  Good stuff.  Jump in:

 

A couple weeks back Andrew went DudeCrazy (Dude’s note: there’s a distinct difference between “DudeYouCrazy” and “DudeCrazy”.  I trust that you can deduce the discrepancy.)  for Hutson Mason, while invoking my name as one of the (I suspect) thousands of UGA fans who don’t feel warm and fuzzy at the idea of Hutson Mason taking the reins if Aaron Murray should choose to forgo his senior season. Andrew made it clear he thinks Hutson Mason is a quarterback who will follow in the tradition of Greene, Shockley, Stafford, and Murray, (Dude’s note: These are some my exact words – Does it mean that Hutson Mason is going to be great?  Certainly not.  But I think it goes a long way in proving that Hutson Mason is – at the very minimum – capable of playing quarterback for the Georgia Bulldogs, even in a starting capacity.  Andy just makes things up like a lawyer!) and he summed up my opinion as: “To hear Andy speak…Hutson Mason played eight-on-eight flag football with such poor proficiency that no school other than the University of Georgia expressed any interest.”

To be clear, I like Hutson Mason. I think he is an adequate backup. He did, however, rub me the wrong way when he considered transferring to get more playing time Dude’s note: I feel that). What did he think was going to happen if he came to UGA? Did he think he was going to beat out Aaron Murray and start for one of the top programs in the country? If he wanted playing time he should have jumped on one of the plethora of directional schools that offered him a scholarship in high school.

Andrew seems to think Mason deserves more regard though. He thinks if Mason was named the starting quarterback UGA would instantly catapult to number 1 in the AP (Dude’s note: I wish!), Jarvis would stay for his senior year (Dude’s note: I wish!), and Georgia would finally claim a BCS trophy to put in Butts-Mehre next to Hershcel, Sinkwich and Mason’s Heisman trophies (Dude’s note: I wish!).

Andrew’s argument for Mason as some kind of second coming of Johnny Moxon (Dude’s note: I just watched that movie!) can be broken into three parts: 1) He was a stellar high school quarterback; 2) Mason has played well as a backup; 3) he is at least as good as Joe Cox. Let me dismantle these one at a time.

Andy initially had a photo of Johnny Moxon (played by James Van Der Beek) from Varsity Blues here, but the formatting was weird and didn't work.  I replaced it with this photo of Van Der Beek going in for some sugar from Katie Holmes.  If you think this photo makes my arguments seems stronger than his, that is by design.  Sorry, Andy!

Andy initially had a photo of Johnny Moxon (played by James Van Der Beek) from Varsity Blues here, but the formatting was weird and didn’t work. I replaced it with this photo of Van Der Beek going in for some sugar from Katie Holmes. If you think this photo makes my arguments seems stronger than his, that is by design. Sorry, Andy!

 

But first, let me outline how I group Georgia starting quarterbacks in the Mark Richt era. They divide into three tiers: Tier 1- Greene, Shockley, Stafford, Murray- These are the special quarterbacks. They are usually highly touted out of high school, and have apparent talent. With the exception of Shockley, they take over as the starter early in their career. They have a high ceiling, and can be counted among the elite in the nation. Tier 2- Joe Cox- Good, but not great. The most Georgia could hope for with this quarterback is a 9 win season; ten if the defense and running game compensate for average QB play (which Cox definitely did not have). He knows the offense inside and out, which somewhat compensates for a lack of talent. Tier 3- Tereshinski- While he knows the offense, he has a low ceiling for which his acumen cannot compensate. He is probably better suited to start for a Sun Belt team. He will be supplanted as soon as a younger quarterback is healthy and knows enough of the offense.

 

Mason in High School

Hutson Mason is lucky to have a shot at starting for UGA Let’s go back to December 2009. Joe Cox is leading UGA to a ho-hum 8-5 season. Washaun Ealey and Caleb King have just coined the phrase, “We Run This State.” And UGA was preparing for an Independence Bowl against Texas A&M, which would help A.J. Green make an easy $1,000 in a few months (Dude’s note: STILL too soon – one of my first ever articles addressed this issue).

Georgia was closing up one of its smaller, and at the time, less impressive recruiting classes. Staring down the New Year the Dawgs had scholarships to burn. The previous year’s recruiting class brought in Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger, two Elite 11 QBs, who had entrenched themselves as the number 1 and number 2 QBs for years to come. After Cox graduated the only other QB on the roster would be Logan Gray, who wanted to move to wide receiver.

Hutson Mason was offered a scholarship by UGA in December 2009 after a loss in the Georgia HS playoffs (where he threw 0 tds, and 5 ints). As Andrew points out, he put up impressive numbers that season (4560 yds, 54 tds, 10 ints), however, it is important to keep these statistics in perspective. Mason was a system QB. He wasn’t always standing in the pocket, reading defenses, and firing downfield. The offense was largely built on short, quick passes. He played in a spread offense, throwing
the ball 434(!!!) times his senior season. That is more than UGA has thrown the ball in any season, well, ever. So those numbers are skewed. His success in that offense means about as much as Graham Harrell’s success at Texas Tech meant to his NFL career (nothing). All those numbers show is that he can throw all the bubble screens you could ever want. This doesn’t make him a bad prospect, but it doesn’t automatically make him a good one either. (Dude’s note: Keep in mind, Andy is saying that because Mason threw the ball a lot in a “system” his high school performance should be discredited.)

By December 9th, when Chip Towers reported that Georgia offered Mason, the Lassiter QB had received scholarship offers from Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Virginia, and Mississippi State. Florida State (a school who hasn’t exactly been known for their quarterbacks in recent years) offered right after UGA. Mason made the easy choice and almost immediately committed to UGA, the first elite program to make an offer.

Georgia decided to offer an average in-state recruit to add some depth for the coming years. He was never meant to be the next Tier 1 guy. He was meant to be, at most, a one year Cox/Tereshinski type stop gap between the Murray/Mettenberger era and the “the next guy” era.

While Mettenberger’s libido took him out of the picture (Dude’s note: I’m so glad there weren’t pictures of his libido taking him out of the picture.  Am I right?), Mason has continued to fill the backup/possible stop gap role for Murray ever since. The only way Mason would ever start would be if Murray got injured or left before the next Tier 1 QB was ready.

 

We have no idea how good (or bad) Hutson Mason is

Andrew points out that Hutson has put together solid, albeit limited, numbers at UGA. His career numbers are as follows: 27-47, 356yds, 3tds, 0 ints. Andrew adds the following: “But, ‘that passing has been intermittent,’ you say. Yes, but does that necessarily discredit his performance? Probably not.”

Yes. Yes it does. Mason has never played any meaningful football at the college level. He’s played proficiently during mop up duty (Idaho State, Vanderbilt, Coastal Carolina, etc). His career stats read like the stat line for a single pass happy game against a cupcake opponent. 

Andrew mentions that Mason’s career QB rating (142.13) would be 40th in the country this year. What he forgets to mention is that QB rating is only an accurate statistic if the quarterback has an adequate sample of passes to evaluate. In order to even qualify to be listed for a QB rating on ESPN’s stats, the player must average 14 pass attempts per game. Obviously, Mason falls far short of that threshold, and his QB rating is rendered meaningless. It is just as likely to be statistical noise as it is an accurate representation of what he could do on the field against quality opponents on a consistent basis.

All we know about Mason is what we knew when he was a freshman fielding offers from mid-major schools. As Scout.com noted in 2009, he’s a smart and accurate passer who is hampered with weak arm strength and field vision. (That sounds eerily like Joe Cox, does it not? More on that in a bit.) I think I speak for most Dawg fans when I say I’m not looking forward to another noodle-armed quarterback leading us to an 8 win season- and this time AJ Green isn’t there to make him look good.

A.J. Green: Making noodle-armed ginger quarterbacks look good since 2009.

A.J. Green: Making noodle-armed ginger quarterbacks look good since 2009.

Mike Bobo and Mark Richt develop college quarterbacks better than anyone in college football. They can coach any hardworking quarterback into a proficient field general. But all the coaching in the world can’t give Mason a stronger arm or any of the golden boy talent that was so apparent in Stafford and Murray as soon as they arrived on campus.

 

Andrew’s right about one thing- Hutson Mason is probably as good as Joe Cox (Dude’s note: I am right about everything, but not all at once.)

We don’t have much by which to compare them yet, but my gut tells me Cox and Mason are pretty similar. Both went to stellar high school programs (Independence and Lassiter, respectively), both have been career backups behind stellar starting quarterbacks, and both have similar size and speed. Cox had better college offers, but they were from mediocre schools such as Maryland, Duke, and UNC. It’s also interesting to point out that they both wear #14, and each threw their first touchdown on a post route in the east endzone (Mason to Gray against ULL, and Cox to Milner against Colorado) (Dude’s note: Andy Crawgord is dropping knowledge right now!).

And let’s assume that Andrew is right, and that Mason’s QB rating is an accurate representation of what he can do. Mason would be 40th in QB rating this year, close to Cox, who finished 42nd in QB rating in 2009.

Just to be clear, I liked Joe Cox. He played his heart out for the Dawgs, and, as most people forget, won a quarterback duel against Ryan Mallet (with some help from A.J., of course). He was an adequate stop gap quarterback.

I also like Hutson Mason. As I mentioned above, he struck me as delusional and entitled when he considered transferring to get more playing time. I guess I can’t blame the guy too much for wanting to play though, and he has been a dependable backup. And make no mistake about it, he is the ONLY backup QB I would feel comfortable taking meaningful snaps if Aaron “Murr-Man” Murray were to get injured. But I don’t think I’m alone when I say that I would rather not have to deal with a one year steward (Dude’s note: I agree!), simply managing the offense until a high caliber quarterback is ready. I would like to seamlessly go from one Tier 1 quarterback to another.

I know how much Andy loves Mason, so I took this photo of him with a DYC sticker during the Capital One Bowl celebration.

I know how much Andy loves Mason, so I took this photo of him with a DYC sticker during the Capital One Bowl celebration.

My hope is that Murray stays for his senior year to shatter some records and make another SEC Championship run, allowing Brice Ramsey a year to learn the system and take over as a redshirt freshman. That would allow a seamless transition from Murray to Ramsey, who by most accounts, is the real deal (Dude’s note: Keep in mind Ramsey hardly ever threw in high school!  Mason was discredited for throwing too much (434 passes as a senior), but the guy with 289 career pass attempts gets a pass?)

Once again, go back to 2009. Wasn’t it kind of a lost year? (Dude’s note: I wrote about this way back in October of 2010, but I think 2009 would have been a disappointment even if Stafford was still around.  Tennessee, Florida and Kentucky scored 45, 41 and 34 points respectively against the Dawgs that year.) Didn’t it feel like UGA was in a holding pattern waiting on “the next guy”? I don’t want another lost year, if it can be helped. And with Mason, I think that’s exactly what we would get.

– Andy Crawford, J.D.

Again, thanks Andy!

 

That’s all I got/

Andrew

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Posted on January 4, 2013, in Blog, Georgia Bulldogs, SEC and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 9 Comments.

  1. Snake Plissken

    One of the best explanations that I have seen…I might add that Murray should have played after the UT game and gotten 6, possibly 7 meaningful games his freshman year…that is a ton of games in the scheme of things…instead, 2009 was a throw away year, and then 2010 became a throw away year (don’t know why a veteran offensive line, and senior leadership were so lacking)…the real turnaround came when Richt’s butt was on the line in 20111 and he got more involved…Mason just may work out, but for anyone to consider him on par with Murray is just plain uninformed…there’s not too many QB’s in America that could loose 3 starting receivers and still have UGA know for the prolific passing attack…of course, having the running game made it all possible…Murray is, and has always been, a gamer; while Mason, well we’ll have to wait and see…in closing, I want Murray to go pro, he’s worked his tail off for 4 years and it’s time for him to be rewarded…he’s not going to get taller, so what if he drops down and gets with an established team and is not thrown into the fire right away…he can make the really big money on his second contract

  2. Really surprised LeMay hasn’t unseated Mason as the backup. He was a much more highly regarded high school QB, but sitting out his SR year obviously threw him for a loop.

    If Murray comes back, Mason might never get his opportunity because Ramsey should be ready to take over after a redshirt year.

  3. I think you guys miss the point that Mason was a late bloomer and was on no one’s radar before his Sr year. I don’t know what he will be but have enough confidence in the coaching staff. LeMay hasn’t come close to unseating him in spite of his HS accolades.

  4. So based on this logic, we shouldn’t expect much from Bryce Ramsey? After all, he plays in some Wing T high school offense, and throws about 6 balls a game. Me, I will take what Mason did do in high school (state passing records) vs. what someone has not done. Granted, Ramsey has a big arm…but there could possibly be more concerns with he than Mason.

  5. David Cunningham

    Why are such a hater! Read what Bobo says about Hutson! Quote ” He does some things better than Murray and Murray does some things better that Hutson”. Then consider the players coments, I guess they don’t count in your view, after all they only play end, running back, and defensive back positions. What do they know about quarterbacking? I venture to say a little more than what you do. Read and study their comments! Your going to be surprised “when” Hutson gets in chance. Do everybody a favor if you can’t say anything nice about someone don’t say anything at all.

  6. What a load of CRAP!!!! This guy obviously knows nothing about football (I wonder if he even played for a winning team) and is a UF fan. Why else would he try to hurt Hutson’s feelings like this? I bet he got his law degree from somewhere in South America.

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